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KISS - Keep It Super Simple by zeustoves KISS - Keep It Super Simple by zeustoves
Let's just get this over with right?

Superman is the character I messed with the least. I don't like the idea of armor, for someone as strong as he is I have always imagined he should be just as intelligent. Sneaky humans always try to put the deadliest weapons front and center like insecure insects - Superman should be just the opposite.

Think about it for a second, Superman is our fictional elder statesman, an emissary from a dead planet. How often do you see elder statesmen wearing body armor? That's what the rest of the members are for. Just kidding.

Seriously I don't mind the underwear, I could have made a design with it as well, but if we are going to make a Superman update it really is the only thing to lose - and as an old design saying goes a design is often done when it is not that more can be added, it is that no more can be taken away.

I kept everything very subdued, colors hopefully, details are very small, the glyph on his chest is something that concerns me. I always liked the idea from the films that it wasn't an "S" but a glyph or sigil of his family but to us it meant something else. That's a basic truth of Superman - we imprint an awful lot on this guy. And that's the biggest reason to keep his design as minimalistic as possible.

The best reason I think I had for not doing too much with him though is he is often thought of as the centerpiece of the JLA - the most inherently powerful. All the characters I have designed have a basic idea relative to their mortality - the more complicated their images become the more you sense it is a comepnsation for their mortality. That will become more apparent as the designs sit together on a page I think. It is actually fairly apparent from the current designs as well but I really wanted to capitalize on that.

Anyway - like I said I may lose some people with this. As Artists I know a lot of us want a shot at pencilling the boy in blue - he's one of the few icons I would actually relish the chance of working on professionally, but not if it meant in anyway dilluting the ideals.

Anyway there was alot of thought put into this even though there really isn't a lot changed and I am sure that is one of the problems that faced the recent Superman Returns film - too many opinions on the simplest of designs. It forces debate. SO be it.
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HeroXero Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good Job! I agree with you on why Superman shouldn't wear armor, bullets can bounce off the dudes face, he has no need for armor.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks - yeah the armor thing was the whole reason for doing all the redesigns I did. I didn't think they should all look like they had the same tailor. Hehe!
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lolth2112 Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012
I love it! Epic, simply to remember but remarcable at the same time. Classic "spirit" and "modern" urges perfect armonized. AMAZING!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yay! Thank you!
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Kerevon Featured By Owner May 2, 2012
I like your thinking. Moreover, I like how you simply took away unnecessary parts of the old outfit (briefs among them) instead of simply adding on new stuff. The overall result (while different) feels far less controversial. To me, anyways.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner May 2, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks - yeah I guess I really have a lot of reservations about changing Superman very much - addition by subtraction as some people like to say.

And yes - so many people get into the mix when you try to change Superman that it becomes paralyzing.
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DRMidnite08 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011
Simply...awesome!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you!
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dreaminpng Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really like what you did, and I loved reading your explanation behind it. I agreed with what you said, and feel like you executed what you intended spot on.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks! And thanks for reading, sometimes people gloss over that part hehe.
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Sylvlance Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Best i have seen so by far
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Professional General Artist
Wow thanks - I actually like quite a few of the other Scratchjams too.
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Robobotnik Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
My design is relatively similar, just need to scan and colour it, though your's looks better imo.

My only criticism is I prefer a larger S on his chest, but you've done a great job regardless. :)
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Professional General Artist
Great minds think alike? haha!

I see what you mean about the smaller logo - I was going for "understated power" more than anything. :-)
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Robobotnik Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Looking at it again I think the S works really well tbh. It being connected to the cape and the colours inverted make it pop out more as well as give him a stronger looking frame. I think I was thinking too much about Superman Returns version of the suit, which, imo, looked like Kryptonian branded diving gear.

Something else I like, with the boots and slightly loose tights, I could really see this in a pulpy 1930s/40s sci fi serial, which is awesome!
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Kerevon Featured By Owner May 2, 2012
In case you're wondering the "Diving Gear" thing is quite intentional. Brandon Routh, apparently, exercises via swimming a lot. Most of the fine details on how he flew were also supposed to be based on swimming movements, as they believed swimming was the closest motion to self-powered flight as possible.

There is a good point there, but I think they stretched it a bit far.
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Robobotnik Featured By Owner May 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I remember that, I thought they did a great job in terms of how he moved, but for the costume...yeah, I wish they'd done things more traditionally.
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Kerevon Featured By Owner May 3, 2012
It's not so much that it wasn't "traditional", it's simply that it didn't look like something any kind of Superman would wear. The bright red underpants and the boots looked like they were attached by a wanna-be wrestler, but the fabric and ESPECIALLY the belt seemed to be designed and made by either an expensive corporation or somewhere in the Fortress. Neither of those fit, and the overall result was not very complimentary to Routh's relatively slim build (compared to his obvious predecessor, Christopher Reeves).

Personally, I think it would have been wiser to perhaps use a non skin-tight outfit. That or play up certain elements of the suit in order to make Routh seem larger (using the regular-sized \S/ would have helped there).
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Robobotnik Featured By Owner May 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Something similar to Captain America's suit in The Avengers might've worked, maintaining a strong silhouette while being more complimentary to a slimmer, more athletic build like Routh's. I also wish the cape/collar was lower, looked a little silly where it was placed, not attached to anything, just sort'a tucked in.
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Kerevon Featured By Owner May 4, 2012
Aye. I was actually surprised by Captain America's suit in The Avengers, as it managed to maintain the iconic look while still being an effective and flattering redesign. THAT is what is needed for Superman's suit.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Professional General Artist
Kryptonian branded diving gear, that's cool! Actually you picked up on something I wanted to communicate for sure - I have always wished they would do a Superman film in precisely that period - 30s and 40s maybe even the 50s. The 50s would be perfect for the "idealism" of that day.
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Robobotnik Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
That would be fantastic, like a live action version of the 40's cartoon? If someone made that and a live action version of Batman TAS I'd be a happy geek indeed!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2011  Professional General Artist
Exactly!
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Robobotnik Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Posted my pic at last [link]

Would love to get your opinion. :)
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timothygreenII Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2011
looks good!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks man.
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timothygreenII Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2011
my pleasure.
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KirbBrimstone Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2011
'Yes! FinALLY someone get's it.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2011  Professional General Artist
Now if we can just get someone in charge to listen right? Haha! Oh well I went pretty nuts with some of my other ideas so ... :-)
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KirbBrimstone Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2011
lol
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