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Regal Warrior Princess by zeustoves Regal Warrior Princess by zeustoves
I remember when the original Wonder Woman series aired during it's first run - I was just old enough to understand the talk spreading far and wide about certain women's groups being upset about the exploitative images it engendered. It eventually blew over, no one really took the show very seriously and it was admittedly very light fair for the day. But the reaction from the women of my household was varied - my sister's (all older) liked the show well enough. My mother generally disregarded telelvision outright if it wasn't news or cooking related. It was not long before the show was forgotten by my family as well as the world.

I make no secret of the fact that I dislike most of the representations of Wonder Woman as merely a pinup - the character to me is mythic in some ways even though her history in fiction and comics has been checkered to say the least. I have done other versions of the character at conventions and events as sketches and some of them are posted here. What red blooded American man doesn't enjoy drawing women right?

But Wonder Woman - like Superman - has nothing to prove with the outfit she wears. Like many royal guards of monarchies worldwide, any combat regalia is almost completely ceremonial in nature if not in construction. Though Diana's raiment is definitely meant to be lethal it is at the same time very beautiful. The bracelets, sword, and lasso are pretty standard, but I knew I wanted to make something that covered nearly every inch of her body to make a subtle point - she can beautiful, powerful and sexy without having to bare significant amounts of flesh. Even with the DC redesign, she is by and large still wearing the makings of a fantasy pinup cosplay girl and not the garments of a mighty warrior princess.

I also wanted to make her quite a bit taller than anyone is really making her in the current books. At least one DC set of titles made her much larger than life - the Darwin Cooke work was impressive to me for at least making her character seem more brash. Lastly, I took the red white and blue pallette down to a bare minimum, for no better reason than to be subtle. I know comics as medium take to heart the advice of many publishers - you have to get the attention of people on the stands with bold colors and big designs. At some point everything blends together though. And for Diana, I think the wardrobe change would be very welcome to some women.

I have been noticing a lot more female watchers here on DA - I am unabashedly proud of that fact because it is a good reminder that the audience of comics reaches much farther than the boys club.

I am sure Wonder Woman will continue to prance around in varied designs themed on the beauty pageant getup she currently wears - Jim Lee might send hit squads of DC shock troops after me for saying that but it's true - ALL of the current designs for Diana still bear that stigma in the non-comics buying public and it's something I would love to see the character overcome - to grow out of her design adolescance.
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WOLFBLADE111 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool job dude. :)
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2015  Professional General Artist
Sorry for the late reply, but thank you very much!
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AbyssalDaemon Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
Her face is a bit pale in-comparison to her hands, but I really like this piece.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Professional General Artist
Good catch - I should fix that. :-) Among other things her hands are also kinda mannish and huge.
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AbyssalDaemon Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2014
Outside of the left hand, it's really is hard to notice.
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FRM5993 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sweet! and actually fully clothed!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2014  Professional General Artist
Hehe - yeah. It may have been a particularly cold day in September when I did that one :-)
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ragdollfun Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013
Great redesign!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thank you!
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Engirish Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
sweet
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thanks!
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Engirish Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^_^
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Penamesolen Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't know if I would want it in the mainstream universe, but by god that is beautiful! It should totally be her outfit when she travels to cold places, or when she is at war. I mean, look at it! :D
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013  Professional General Artist
And I agree - "Arctic Warfare Wonder Woman" kind of has a nice ring to it actually.
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Penamesolen Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Get hired by DC and make the story, NOW. :icondoitplz:

Oh my god, that would be AMAZING.

And when you're finished, make an Elseworlds where the Amazons are the Norse equivalent so that she can wear it (I think that would be Shield Maidens, though not Valkyries, as they are Odin's servants to find and kill men/warriors to serve him). And have her wear it again.

I said it before here ([link], but why does DC have to be so dark, gritty and bloody now, when stuff like this and Stanley the Wonder Lion are genius? Heck with your story she could have a Wonder Polar-Bear! That she rides on!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013  Professional General Artist
Yeah I don't need Wonder Woman to be so dark that she's just not "wonderful" anymore.

I have to say though - after all the bad blood that's been coming out DC from even the top writers, it doesn't sound like a particularly nice place to work. :-)
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Penamesolen Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
B-but, but, the Wonder Polar-Bear... ;_;

You're right, though. I often visit the tumblr DC Women Kicking Ass, and there are a lot of news about writers quitting nowadays, and a lot of editorial mandates. It's sad that the comic company with the most alla-round well-known superheroes are doing so poorly.

But you're right. I am a newly-recruited superhero comic fan, but Azzarello's Wonder Woman was the first I read. Good storytelling, but it's so serious and grim (coughandAmazonrapistswhatthehellcough). I know this sounds stupid for a new fan who doesn't know her shit, but I seriously would like there to soon be a "Modern Silver Age". Not a complete return of the plots from that time (much from there sound downright stupid and offensive), but take some goofy concepts and use our modern minds to make a fun and lively story where our heroes are actually heroes, people to look up to.

Heck, on my top 20 list of what I want to read from Wonder Woman someday, I want a Wonder Pet, whether it is Stanley the Wonder Lion or Rex the Wonder Dog, or Amazo the Wonder Cat or Knut the Wonder Polar-Bear ([link]. I want her to fight space pirates that steal star constellations in which the storyline ends with a star/night god designing a new constellation of her as thanks. I want her to get a Wonder Girl protege that respects her and LIKES being her sidekick, not a douchebag thief who hates being called Wonder Girl as I question why people who don't know her think she is. I want her brofisting other heroes, especially Superman and Batman because they are the adult equivalent of the Super Best Friends Forever. And I would like her to get some proper not-painted-on pants, but OBVIOUSLY that is too much to ask from comic character designers hahahahah. XD And I want the DC to properly treat her as part of the Super-Wonder-Bat trinity, so that people cannot argue that she is there only for positive sexism.

Sorry, I went a bit on a rambling. I just really, really want some more escapism when I read escapist superhero comics to escape my normal life. ;P
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2013  Professional General Artist
It makes me sad sometime saying this but there are just too many oversexed and overpaid horny middle aged men handling these characters. While it makes short term economical sense to pander to an audience that consistently delivers sales, it will never make sense to me that some of these people don't understand some of the simpler truths that make these characters eternally popular - and yes - what makes them good escapist fun.

I actually redesigned the entire justice league - which that Wonder Woman is a part of - because I thought the New 52 stuff was kind of a cop out.

I definitely think there is room for multiple approaches to these characters that broadens the audience and doesn't limit it - that was the biggest mistake of the latest reboot. U think it squandered the creative efforts of a lot of people, and worse, wasted the trust of the larger audience.

Some of those more innocent styles of storytelling are COMPLETELY LOST on some of the newer writers and editors - not every story has to be about some massive moral dilemma or internal darkness struggle to be compelling. I personally love stories where heroes make discoveries, demonstrate clear moral choices, and use mind over muscle - I don't need to see someone important murdered every other issue.

Sorry - I'm rambling too. I grew up loving those Silver Age stories - they were my escape too! :-) have a great weekend.
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Penamesolen Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think pandering to fans, or at the least to the focus group that is already buying your comics, is the same as Glee is doing nowadays. They pander to their hardcore fans, despite the fact that it alienates newcomers or people who don't like the show, and that even if they pander a little to newcomers or critics, the hardcore fans will still be hardcore fans. They won't lose as many viewers by listening to criticism as they do when pandering to the loudest hardcore fans.
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That, and I want to see the economical sense to change the Clark/Lois marriage to a Superman/Wonder Woman affair. Or having Barbara Gordon go from Oracle to Batgirl again, I heard that was a big deal during the relaunch.

Oooh, sounds interesting. I've only gotten to read "Wonder Woman" and "Batgirl" of the New52, but I'm happy you went back to gold for Wondy; silver makes her look... colder, somehow, a little less mature, and gold makes her look more royal.

I really must get used to order comic books from the Internet, I feel like I'm missing so much. :)

I'm sorry if I offended you with my "sounds like most Silver Age comics were offensive". I was going after story-lines like when Lois Lane turned black, or just the fact that Lois got her own series where the whole plot was trying to marry Superman. It truly wasn't my intention to offend. I just meant to say that I think what you have already stated; that we should have comics and story-lines that don't get people killed and are not always about their supposed darkness. I really want my Wonder Pet, damn it. :(

No, no, I love having conversations with people! Especially in this new fandom I just joined, there's so much to discover yet! :iconadventureplz: Have a great weekend, you too!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2013  Professional General Artist
Don't worry I am in no way offended - a lot of the Silver Age stuff was of a particular time - there's a lot of history there worth analyzing and looking at for perspective. After all, these concepts wouldn't have lasted so long without some measure of appeal and interest.

And the whole Oracle thing - one friend of mine stopped reading anything DC because of that alone - he took forever to read anything again. But don't worry about being current - I think it's super important for fans today to truly only consume the stuff that's valid to them. It's a time where we all need to keep publishers on their toes because it feels like many of them have lost their way in the search for cash and not for trust.

Nice talking to you! And I hope you're not discouraged, comics will be there in some form or another forever it would seem. I just hope I get to play a bigger part in making them someday.
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starrk10coyote Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012
KICK ass! i like it a lot!
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
Sweet - thanks - :-)
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starrk10coyote Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2012
as you seen i have all ready commented on your artwork, that is how good it is, when you got the same guy to comment 2 times.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Professional General Artist
Haha - yesy I had noticed - much appreciation!
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starrk10coyote Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012
no need :D
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starrk10coyote Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
that is A W E S O M E! ARTWORK! keep up the hard work.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012  Professional General Artist
Sweet! thanks!
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DarkProxy Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
She is in pants awesome this is what wonder woman should be wearing.
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011  Professional General Artist
I thought so - I hate seeing her reduced to a swimsuit model
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DarkProxy Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
"I don't like the wonder woman comics they are to sexual."
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional General Artist
Oh boy then don't read that one DC book where they made Starfire kind of (and I mean a total) slut.
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DarkProxy Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
No comic books for me I read tom clancy novels and have only recently taken a liking to The dark knight
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Dark knight = classic stuff. Good choice :-)
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SplendorEnt Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2011  Student General Artist
:clap: :salute: :w00t:
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CrowleysPyramid Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2011
I'm in love with the translucent elements of her garb. Elegant and regal without being scandalous in the slightest.

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"When you're full of spirit everyone else looks empty."
~Gosalyn Mallard, 'Darkwing Duck'
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2011  Professional General Artist
Exactly the emotion I was going for - Wonder Woman doesn't have to be a tramp o be considered beautiful. Right! Hehe!
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DrewEdwardJohnson Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2011
Nice design, Jesse. Jim Lee called, and I'm supposed to execute you immediately.
I think a sensible costume change would be appreciated by many female readers. I know during my tenure on the book, many female readers were complimentary of the fact that I simply drew her with correctly proportioned breasts along with raising the breast plate and dropping the cut of the Wonder Shorts. All that drew fire from other quarters of fans, though. Over the years, my experience with the Wonder Woman character has been that her large base of fans want many things from her, and no one costume solutions seems capable of pleasing all of them. I think this is a problem with all of the franchise characters of Marvel and DC, though. They've been around for so many years and have become so iconic that a change, even a minute one, can send any portion of fans screaming to the internet. Also, there are licensers to be considered, and that's a whole other ball of wax....
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zeustoves Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2011  Professional General Artist
Oh well. It was nice life. Wait ... what?? Haha!

I agree - the legacy, the "ownership" makes me think there should really not be a single costume - period. It's one of those points about the superficiality of the a certain kind of thinking about these characters that really hurts the whole enterprise.

When I redid all of these characters for fun - I never thought about the costumes, patterns or colors really as much as who they really are. The titles I gave all these pieces are who I think they are and that informed what they would look like - but yeah the rabid types act like the squeaky wheel that publishers too often cave into.

As far as licensing - I agree - to make the big money you need something that's concrete - and I wish I could convince someone at DC that the best potential audience for Wonder Woman redesigned properly is women, not boys.
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DrewEdwardJohnson Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2011
The trick is to make it work for both.
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